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00:19:18 <Gretell> Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-a0-3102-g84d7231
00:19:32 <Gretell> omil (L4 OpWz) ASSERT(max_ex_rad >= min_ex_rad) in 'target.cc' at line 53 failed. (D:3)
00:21:48 <|amethyst> !lm omil crash -log
00:21:49 <Sequell> 12. omil, XL4 OpWz, T:2727 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/omil/crash-omil-20120803-051931.txt
00:26:23 <|amethyst> oh
00:33:11 <|amethyst> !lm kinch crash -log
00:33:11 <Sequell> 1. kinch, XL27 HEIE, T:146078 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/kinch/crash-kinch-20120802-222107.txt
00:33:24 <|amethyst> s/07/06/
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00:46:06 <CIA-23> 03|amethyst * ra3d49774ac8d 10/crawl-ref/source/ (spl-cast.cc target.cc target.h): Nerf Mephitic Cloud :)
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00:49:23 <|amethyst> %git HEAD
00:49:24 <Cheibriados> |amethyst * 0.11-a0-3103-ga3d4977: Nerf Mephitic Cloud :) (16 minutes ago, 3 files, 4+ 4-) https://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl/commit/a3d49774ac8d
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00:51:00 <|amethyst> hm... item_spec::corpselike() doesn't call any functions... so I guess it was invoked on NULL
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00:59:43 <|amethyst> hm... and the crash-recursive dump is empty
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01:16:08 <CIA-23> 03CommanderC * r74f4db31adeb 10/crawl-ref/source/spl-cast.cc: Correct noise information for Excruciating Wounds and Malign Gateway.
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01:33:50 <|amethyst> kilobyte:  #5989 (map_knowledge lists invalid items) was fixed in 485c763, right?
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02:00:22 <Cheibriados> Trying to cast meph cloud crashes game to start screen, open game again, back at start of level. (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6025) by thevogonpoet
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02:16:08 <Zannick> i see... |amethyst fixed the crash but it hasn't rebuilt
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05:24:37 <nooodl> according to gitorious they're submodules, and i've tried "git submodule update", but that didn't do anything
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05:26:43 <kilobyte> "git submodule init" (or in one go, "git submodule update --init")
05:27:06 <kilobyte> could you tell which documentation mentioned one but not the other?
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05:29:08 <nooodl> the error i got: "The 'pcre' directory exists, but the Makefile is missing! Did 'git submodule update' work properly?"
05:30:12 <nooodl> that worked, though, thanks
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07:08:35 <CIA-23> 03edlothiol * r2454f9b58b56 10/crawl-ref/source/ (6 files in 4 dirs): dd's player doll lajatang tile (#5724).
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08:00:56 <Cheibriados> 0.10.3 on Windows XP sometime hangs on startup (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6026) by white_noise
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09:04:48 * Grunt grumbles something about missing something in testing :p
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09:20:16 <|amethyst> Who casts Meph, right? :P
09:22:14 <Cheibriados> Troglodytes with maxed skills are forced to learn spellcasting (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6027) by nht
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10:01:38 <HangedMan> is there a lua function to check what depth a vault is in for a given branch?
10:02:07 <Grunt> Do you mean "how deep is this function being called from within the branch", or something else?
10:02:34 <HangedMan> yes, that
10:03:03 <Grunt> That would be you.depth(), if I'm not mistaken.
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10:12:36 <HangedMan> bleh, I've twisted myself into a pretzel overcomplicating this
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10:16:27 <Grunt> What are you working on?
10:16:32 <Grunt> ("Your mind turns into a pretzel!")
10:18:03 <Cheibriados> Hobgoblin spawned in a vault, where he shouldn't (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6028) by moxian
10:18:03 <HangedMan> shoals vault with depth-adjusted chances to do stuff
10:19:02 <HangedMan> http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/entry/twisted.des#l717
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10:55:19 <nooodl_> i'm making choko clouds, what's the most painless way to generate a choko and place it at a given position? (pos() in bolt::affect_place_explosion_clouds())
10:56:27 <nooodl_> it looks like i have to pass a bunch of stuff to items() and then place that to the level grid with some function of which i forgot the name
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10:56:55 <nooodl_> (ah, move_item_to_grid)
11:02:01 <Grunt> Can I get a confirmation of some odd behaviour?
11:02:24 <Grunt> Try placing grunt_entry_hellfire, and observe the lack of, well, hellfire.
11:02:32 <Grunt> ...then teleport into the vault and watch as it triggers.
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11:03:21 <HangedMan> evilmike eventually removed a vault of his that used inner-flamed monsters because apparently there are lots of bugs involving it
11:03:25 <kilobyte> I saw the same in a different flamethrower vault today.
11:03:47 <Grunt> It has nothing to do with inner flame, HangedMan; it has everything to do with fog machines.
11:03:48 <kilobyte> no clouds until after I went in
11:03:56 <HangedMan> oh
11:05:01 <Grunt> Something seems to have changed recently to only allow fog machines to trigger if there's a clear path between them and the player, which I don't think is intentional.
11:11:18 <|amethyst> weird... replacing one of the glass walls with floor doesn't help
11:11:34 <|amethyst> but then if I stand where the wall, it does work
11:11:39 <|amethyst> s/wall/wall was/
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11:16:23 <|amethyst> hm... but if I remove multiple walls it does ...?
11:16:51 <|amethyst> I should have had LOS to one of the fog machines the first time
11:18:57 <Grunt> ...I think I've found the cause of the problem, and boy is it a doozy.
11:19:04 <|amethyst> oh?
11:19:23 <Grunt> The backend for the fog machine code eventually calls spl-util.cc::apply_area_cloud().
11:19:29 <Grunt> apply_area_cloud() uses targetter_cloud.
11:19:38 <|amethyst> hahaha
11:19:59 <Grunt> ...the targetters these days refuse to accept targets that the player can't target.
11:20:30 <|amethyst> wait
11:20:47 <|amethyst> the actor is NULL
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11:23:06 <|amethyst> oh
11:23:17 <|amethyst> targetter::set_aim doesn't care
11:23:48 <|amethyst> if (!cell_see_cell(you.pos(), a, LOS_NO_TRANS))
11:23:48 <|amethyst> return false;
11:24:01 <|amethyst> regardless of who the actor is
11:24:56 <|amethyst> maybe change that to   if (agent && !cell_see_cell(agent.pos(), a, LOS_NO_TRANS))
11:25:23 <|amethyst> err, agent->pos()
11:25:57 <Grunt> That's what I'm trying right now.
11:30:30 <CIA-23> 03Grunt * r3e566ebdbc3d 10/crawl-ref/source/target.cc: Fix fog machines failing to operate outside of player LOS.
11:33:53 <Grunt> Incidentally, it looks like it was me that caused that problem in the first place. >:(
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11:48:35 <kilobyte> well, there's a fool-proof way to not cause any bugs
11:49:01 <elliott> don't write anything?
11:49:07 <kilobyte> yup!
11:49:23 <elliott> this is my favoured approach
11:51:00 <Grunt> Suppose one considers lack of progress to be a bug in itself... :p
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12:32:21 <Zannick> !lm lightli crash -log
12:32:21 <Sequell> 25. Lightli, XL8 MuWz, T:9326 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/Lightli/crash-Lightli-20120803-173204.txt
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12:32:48 <Zannick> yep, they didn't update
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12:36:06 <kilobyte> ... and the bastard is abusing this intentionally
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12:39:54 * kilobyte replaced the version under Lightli :p
12:40:08 <Zannick> haha
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12:59:06 <|amethyst> can't say he wasn't warned
12:59:07 <|amethyst> 01:56:56 < |amethyst> Lightli:  indeed... but keep in mind that we'll hear about it in ##crawl-dev every time you crash
12:59:10 <|amethyst> 01:57:20 < |amethyst> Lightli:  so if you do it too much we'll be forced to push the update early :)
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14:52:20 <Cheibriados> Crash on empty High Scores screen (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6029) by ajg_matebo
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20:53:14 <Cheibriados> Conjure ball lightning changes (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6031) by DracoOmega
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21:09:35 <rax> Hey, does anyone know how I tell which trunk binaries matter? There are like 5G of them in the chroot
21:12:40 <rax> Figured out how, ps -ef | grep crawl :D
21:15:43 <|amethyst> what about saved games?
21:16:04 <rax> Error: There were _20_ gigs of rtunk binaries in the chroot
21:16:10 * rax eyes greensnark suspiciously
21:16:22 <rax> |amethyst: Oh
21:16:23 <rax> well, uh
21:16:28 <rax> trunk is not a supported service
21:16:30 <|amethyst> :)
21:16:32 <rax> we were at 100M left in the chroot
21:16:36 <|amethyst> ouch
21:16:40 <rax> and I just happened to notice because I was bored
21:16:41 <rax> so
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21:16:46 <|amethyst> how big is the chroot?
21:16:50 <rax> 200G or so
21:16:58 <rax> on the new hardware it will be 1TB
21:17:12 <|amethyst> hm
21:17:21 <|amethyst> just got an email that my server is on backorder :(
21:17:39 <rax> Aw that sucks :( What are you getting?
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21:18:14 <rax> Correction: _25G of trunk binaries in the chroot_
21:18:23 <|amethyst> it keeps growing :)
21:18:37 <rax> no they are ~all gone now
21:18:58 <|amethyst> E3-1230 3.2 Ghz, 8GB, 500GB, 10TB/month @100Mbit
21:19:33 <|amethyst> from razorservers, who have a poor reputation for customer service, but it's cheap
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21:19:49 <rax> wow that is a serious machine
21:20:16 <rax> Dedicated crawl server?
21:20:16 <|amethyst> overkill for crawl, but I'm sure I can find other things to use it for
21:20:31 <|amethyst> $99/month
21:20:47 <rax> Do you pay hardware cost or is that fully baked?
21:21:38 <|amethyst> that includes everything
21:21:51 <rax> That's good
21:22:00 <|amethyst> oh, and 5 IP addresses (well, a block of 8, but 5 usable)
21:22:01 <rax> and I guess that's about what I'm giving to the crawl VM, resourcewise
21:22:22 <rax> ah so you can run xen or something :)
21:22:27 <|amethyst> unfortunatly, that only includes 5GB of backup
21:22:34 <|amethyst> s/tly/tely/
21:23:43 <rax> Is it at least RAIDed?
21:23:51 <rax> CAO is not backed up aside from RAID. *shame*
21:24:27 <rax> I hope to change that to at least back up the config stuff, although backing up the other stuff on more than a weekly basis is probably not worth it.
21:24:42 <rax> Might throw another disk in my machine and back up the chroot every once in a while.
21:26:40 <|amethyst> no RAID because I'm cheap
21:26:51 <|amethyst> and the next step down that's actually available is 2GB of RAM :(
21:29:25 <rax> which is not really enough
21:29:32 <rax> 8 will be good if you split into VMs
21:30:22 <|amethyst> I guess $25 extra a month for a second disk and RAID 1 wouldn't be too terrible... but $1188 a year is already kind of a lot for a hobby, especially with my wife being laid off at the end of the month
21:31:16 <|amethyst> my experience with VMs unfortunately only goes as far as Virtualbox
21:31:31 <|amethyst> I do at least get IPMI so I could theoretically reconfigure it to use Xen
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21:34:27 <rax> |amethyst: People offer to donate to CAO periodically; I tend to say no because it not-quite-pays-for-itself with rented VMs and also I don't want the obligation, but if you set up a crawl server and asked people for a few bucks they'd probably help out
21:34:56 <rax> if I took donations, I couldn't tell people they got what they paid for if something broke ;)
21:35:01 <|amethyst> heh
21:35:20 <|amethyst> I'd rather avoid taking the donations... I probably make more than most of the people who would be donating
21:36:17 <rax> *nodnods* That also suggests it's not a great idea. You don't need RAID really if you have stuff backed up
21:36:24 <rax> but a failed hard drive is awful
21:36:27 <rax> CAO has had... two I think?
21:36:46 <rax> One of them no one noticed, the other one happened mid-upgrade-of-the-other-disk and led to some downtime but no data loss
21:37:49 <|amethyst> only 5GB of backup means no backing up the ttyrecs of course
21:38:00 <|amethyst> how much space are all the saves on CAO?
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21:40:14 <rax> The saves? A couple of gigs at most
21:40:39 <|amethyst> oh, good... that was what I was hoping
21:40:40 <rax> Most people will not be that made if ttyrecs vanish
21:41:03 <rax> It's sad, but it happens; NAo lost all ttyrecs in like 2008 or 2009 and people were sad but moved on
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21:41:20 <rax> I am persnickety about keeping data and refuse to delete the ttyrecs of startscummers even :P
21:41:42 <DracoOmega> It should somehow automatically make backups of the ones that end up in the learnDB :P
21:42:12 <DracoOmega> (Not really serious, even if it might be nice)
21:43:17 <rax> I mean it wouldn't be impossible to just back them up to Magical New CAO With More Than A Terabyte Of Space, when that exists
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21:45:24 <rax> could set up some rsync froofery
21:45:38 <|amethyst> yeah
21:45:52 <rax> that's not really a 1.0 feature though :)
21:46:44 <|amethyst> with 500GB I probably can't host everyone's ttyrecs (it's, what, a couple hundred gigs each for CAO and CDO?), but we'll see
21:47:54 <|amethyst> edlothiol said 139GB for CDO currently
21:48:12 <HangedMan> need to ask edlothiol for csn stats
21:48:31 <|amethyst> 17:50:59 <+edlothiol> ttyrecs are a bit of a problem, since 20GB of disk space the server has were already almost full  when I looked today
21:49:20 <|amethyst> (yesterday, that is)
21:49:55 <elliott> are those uncompressed?
21:50:13 <elliott> i imagine ttyrecs would compress veeerry easily/well and you could make the webserver decompress them so things like tv would work "seamlessly"
21:50:41 <rax> they compress very easily
21:50:45 <rax> but they still take up a lot of space
21:50:56 <rax> all of CAO's ttyrecs are like... 230G?
21:51:07 <elliott> mm
21:51:14 <rax> 210-250, there are Shenanigans with bindmounts (don't ask) at the moment so it's hard to give an exact number
21:51:18 <rax> that's five years of crawl though
21:51:31 <elliott> what if you deleted all the hugeterm ttyrecs, how much space would that save :p
21:51:37 <elliott> bigger by definition!
21:51:48 <|amethyst> don't delete my ttyrecs!
21:51:52 <rax> I don't know. :P
21:51:56 <|amethyst> :P
21:52:02 <elliott> |amethyst: it is for the greater good
21:52:24 <|amethyst> elliott:  no, it's for the smaller good
21:52:30 <elliott> :)
21:52:49 <|amethyst> can we declare 80x24 to be bigterm now?
21:52:55 <|amethyst> since 79x24 is supported
21:53:14 <HangedMan> bigterm was always about being largerthendefaultterm, really
21:53:26 <elliott> |amethyst: you're late, kilobyte already made that joke in the commit message
21:53:26 <Eronarn> smallterm
21:53:47 <elliott> 79x24 is nice because you don't actually lose anything since afaict the last column is always empty in 80x24
21:53:49 <elliott> except maybe in the inventory
21:54:19 <|amethyst> IIRC I had to adjust the race/class menus to fit
21:55:15 <|amethyst> "bigterm" really means "why can't I watch this on my VT100?"
21:56:26 <elliott> mmm
21:56:40 <elliott> todo: get a vt100 (vt200? which is the one with colour) and get it to stream CSPLAT 24/7
21:57:41 <evilmike> some sizes tend to break footv, that's the real reason why people complain about "bigterm". With spectating it's alright because you can just press 'r'
21:58:09 <|amethyst> AFAIK vt241 was the first colour DEC terminal
21:58:23 <elliott> well, if you have 80x24 configured to be a nice size, then watching a hugeterm game is a pain because the window becomes huge
21:58:32 <elliott> a lot of hugeterm games are larger than my screen at the font size i use
21:58:47 <evilmike> yeah, and sometimes people use such a large size that even if you resize the window, it's too big
21:59:00 <evilmike> that's pretty rare though
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22:36:09 <CIA-23> 03|amethyst * rcfb010812db2 10/crawl-ref/source/rltiles/item/amulet/ (i-r-corrosion.png i-r-mutation.png i-rage.png): Correct permuted amulet icons.
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23:07:16 <Gretell> Debian builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-a0-3109-g383b96f
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23:10:35 <bmh> ??ghost moth
23:10:36 <Henzell> ghost moth[1/4]: Fast, invisible, poison-resistant moth which gazes at you to drain mana and attacks you to drain stats and inflict poison. Found in Zot and in spider zig levels. They can also appear in the spider nest (0.10 portal or 0.11 branch).
23:10:50 <bmh> christ.
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23:23:01 <bmh> Are all secret doors equi-difficult to detect?
23:24:09 <elliott> if they aren't, i think they will be in 0.12 :p
23:24:58 <bmh> why's that?
23:25:12 <elliott> they seem to be slated for removal
23:25:31 <elliott> random secret doors are removed in 0.11-a already; there's a branch removing them altogether
23:25:38 <elliott> idk if it's actually planned for 0.12 though
23:26:04 <bmh> Here's an idea for secret doors -- make them 'one shot'. If you detect the door, it exists, otherwise it doesn't exist
23:27:02 <bmh> hm -- zot could use some more vaults
23:27:25 <elliott> bmh: well that would be a very bad thing for vaults that use them
23:27:34 <elliott> which are the only secret doors left now
23:27:40 <bmh> elliott: oh totally, but for random ones
23:27:41 <elliott> since it could make certain areas of vaults completely inaccessible
23:27:42 <bmh> ah
23:28:08 <elliott> there's that lair ending, for instance... I'm not sure if its wall is diggable, but if it isn't you'd be unable to access the monsters and loot behind it (the dire elephant statue one)
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23:38:39 <bmh> https://gist.github.com/3254567  -- zot strikes me as a geometric place
23:42:29 <bmh> I wonder if the peano curve would be too long
23:43:00 <Grunt> bmh, fr: full-level Peano curve.
23:43:51 <bmh> Grunt: that's a dumber idea than my abyss :)
23:44:12 <evilmike> I don't like "zot trap in a corridor" type vaults, they interact badly with autoexplore
23:44:40 * Grunt is reminded of getting a Zot trap on the path to the rune in the Swamp fire ending.
23:45:06 <evilmike> that vault doesn't place traps as far as I know, so it was just bad luck in your case :P
23:45:27 <Grunt> I know, but I still enjoy complaining about it. :P
23:46:03 <bmh> evilmike: ok, I'll drop the traps
23:46:12 <elliott> peano curve actually sounds like a fairly interesting layout for a large vault
23:48:14 <bmh> https://gist.github.com/3254567 -- updated
23:48:54 <evilmike> you should drop the ORIENT lines and give them TAGS: extra
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23:49:30 <evilmike> the lack of an ORIENT line makes them minivaults, which is preferable for something like this. 'extra' is generally used for decorative vaults
23:49:56 <evilmike> making them minivaults will also let you place them on Zot:5 without any worries
23:51:26 <bmh> done
23:53:52 <bmh> would it be wrong to have a gate to the hells in Zot?
23:53:54 <Grunt> evilmike, remind me to show you some encompass vaults I'm working on in the near future, after I've tinkered with them a bit more.
23:53:59 <Grunt> ...right now I need to go to sleep though <_<
23:54:06 <bmh> Grunt: what do encompass vaults do?
23:54:15 <Grunt> They replace the whole level.
23:54:39 <Grunt> For example, Slime:6 is comprised of an encompass vault.
23:54:44 <bmh> ahha
23:54:52 <Grunt> Anyway.
23:54:58 * Grunt casts a spell.  Grunt looks drowsy...
23:57:53 <bmh> there's an awful idea -- an orc priest in a cage